tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post8067845341441538330..comments2023-10-25T06:13:28.265-04:00Comments on The Conservative Wahoo: Repeal The 26th AmendmentThe Conservative Wahoohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17818674434286683162noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-35614302896446412152010-11-15T20:54:04.893-05:002010-11-15T20:54:04.893-05:00I never got the rationale behind being old enough ...I never got the rationale behind being old enough to vote and die for my country and not old enough (read "responsible enough") to drink. Seriously, progressives suck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-60382615296500795132010-11-14T21:45:07.753-05:002010-11-14T21:45:07.753-05:00If you're old enough to serve (not to be draft...If you're old enough to serve (not to be drafted, but to actually serve) in the military, then you are old enough to vote for your Commander-in-Chief (and for the people who decide how much money goes into your paycheck/benefits).Stephen Monteithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15143772995125473635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-75723802230486259712010-11-14T15:46:16.499-05:002010-11-14T15:46:16.499-05:00CW, Good points all. My argument is: The original...CW, Good points all. My argument is: The original rationale for lowering the voting age was because 18 to 21-year-olds were disproportionately affected by the draft and therefore should have a voice in decisions about war. The elimination of the draft does not change that rationale since the selective service still exists and the draft could be reactivated as a result of legislative action. 18 to 21-year olds should have a role in the process of reactivating the draft if the original rationale for their getting the vote still holds. Women would likely be brought into the draft as well if it were restarted.<br /><br />Separate from that, we can argue about whether today's 18-21 year olds deserve the right to vote. I don't know whether they are all that worse than our generation at that age. It would be interesting to look at some statistics for their civic participation. They are still joining the military such that quotas are met without much problem (except for a dip in Army numbers 2004-6). With regard to voting, they have been steady at around 20% for a decade, except for 2008.Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04449961206943205940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-88051610360735243182010-11-14T13:59:00.031-05:002010-11-14T13:59:00.031-05:00Bryan and The Conservative Wahoo -
"We"...Bryan and The Conservative Wahoo - <br /><br />"We" haven't seen such a role-playing performance since our own back in the early '60s.<br /><br />Any chance you know Shirley Ardell Mason?Patty and Cathy Lanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-45059030853635687932010-11-14T11:17:08.328-05:002010-11-14T11:17:08.328-05:00Bryan, your legislative history notwithstanding, t...Bryan, your legislative history notwithstanding, the facts of the matter are that it took nearly two more decades for the SOCIETY Eisenhower served to catch up with his feelings. Much of that catch up arguably was the result of the Viet Nam war and the explosion of the "youth" movement--which was what the Baby-Boomers were through the 1960's. <br /><br />Putting this interesting segue aside, what exactly is your point? Are you arguing against repealing the 26th Amendment solely because it would discriminate against 18-21 year-olds? Or just 18-21 year-olds subject to selective service? Would it thereby be ok to deny 18-21 year old women the vote, as they are not subject to the draft?<br /><br />We discriminate on the basis of age all the time. We deny 18-21's the right to drink. Car rentals are extremely limited to people under the age of 25. Senior get discounts. <br /><br />As a society, we have increasingly affixed fewer and fewer of the trappings of responsibility and adulthood to persons 18-21, yet somehow their fitness to vote remains beyond the terms of debate. If we cease infantilizing this generation, then I'm all for their retaining suffrage. As long as we continue to treat them as children, this is what their voting status should be.The Conservative Wahoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17818674434286683162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-71185183428658008002010-11-14T11:14:07.025-05:002010-11-14T11:14:07.025-05:00You just better watch it GG. Objectifying women wi...You just better watch it GG. Objectifying women will not be tolerated on this blog! We're interested in the woman's argument, not your John Kerry fantasies.<br /><br />Now, having said that, she makes an excellent argument. 18 years olds don't have the life experience, regardless of their maturity, to exercise the franchise.<br /><br />ps. Sorry for being an asshole GG, but don't be messing with Coulter. And by the way, I think she's a bit of posh."The Hammer"https://www.blogger.com/profile/16342812251947807673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-82539931152371637432010-11-14T08:50:58.787-05:002010-11-14T08:50:58.787-05:00I only need to read my 19 year old daughter's ...I only need to read my 19 year old daughter's Facebook page in order to realize that we need to repeal the 26th Amendment.Tubby McGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-28244108916852086232010-11-14T08:30:32.371-05:002010-11-14T08:30:32.371-05:00Keeping in mind that 18 year olds are still requir...Keeping in mind that 18 year olds are still required by law to register for the draft which though presently inactive, could be reinstated as Bryan stated "as a result of the political process".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-47425001597664662772010-11-13T21:21:51.880-05:002010-11-13T21:21:51.880-05:00Although the 26th Amendment was in large part a re...Although the 26th Amendment was in large part a reaction to the Vietnam War and the draft, the move to reduce the voting age began with Eisenhower in 1954. He argued suffrage for this group was warranted by the fact they could be called upon to fight and "They should participate in the political process that produces this fateful summons."<br /><br />Although we don't have a draft now, its reinstatement would result from the political process. Should only people older than 21 be involved in the process of restarting a draft that would disproportionally affect 18-21 year olds? The current selective service system is set up to prioritize 18-20 year olds, with decreasing percentages until age 26, after which one is no longer in the pool.<br /><br />Also, the allowance that people in the military could vote regardless of age perpetuates the idea non-military people are second-class citizens - not a desirable quality in a nation espousing equal protection and civilian control of the military.Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04449961206943205940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8591018003444406729.post-1404870632993793462010-11-13T12:06:20.514-05:002010-11-13T12:06:20.514-05:00I'm sorry, but every time I look at Ms. Coulte...I'm sorry, but every time I look at Ms. Coulter, I see John Kerry in drag.Goldwater's Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07002029000125533764noreply@blogger.com