While I --at the time--questioned the political wisdom of her statement and attributed it largely to catering to her own "identity politics run amok" base, I agreed with the gist of the statement. After all, Trump's supporters had at that point already: cheered him as he urged violence against protesters at his rallies; mocked a handicapped reporter; listened to him boast of serial sexual assault; insult a war-hero former prisoner of war; and generally behave in a manner that at least some of them would not accept from their child. Their continued support for him was deplorable. They were, deplorable.
We are now in the midst of the great Roy Moore scandal, in which a blatantly Trumpist, cro-magnon, represents the once proud GOP in the race to replace the Senate seat vacated by Jeff Sessions when he joined the administration. Moore is proceeding with the backing of the Deplorable Obergruppenfuhrer Steve Bannon and the full support of the President (and sadly much of the establishment GOP). He has been accused of all manner crimes by four women who tell remarkably similar stories about his lechery (and sexual assault) when they were teens and he was in his early thirties.
I don't know if the stories are true. A major US newspaper has done exhaustive reporting with over 30 sources using four women's stories who DID NOT COME FORWARD TO THEM--but who the investigative reporters discovered. Roy Moore has a right to defend himself against these accusations, and his supporters have the right to question the facts of the accusations and their timing. Some of that is happening, and it is natural. But this?
Alabama Geneva County GOP chairman Riley Seibenhener, who called me back, says he doesn't believe the allegations are true, but if they're true he won't support him - but, at the same time, it's not "forcible rape."— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 10, 2017
"I know that 14-year-olds don't make good decisions," he adds.
And this?
"Other than being with an underage person - he didn't really force himself," Alabama Geneva County GOP chairman Riley Seibenhener tells me. "I know that's bad enough, but I don't know. If he withdraws, it's five weeks to the election...that would concede it to the Democrat."— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 10, 2017
Or maybe this?
Alabama Covington County GOP Chairman William Blocker tells me Democrats convinced these women to tell a fake story to damage Moore.— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 9, 2017
I told him the 14-year-old became a Trump voter.
"That's the typical background or profile of somebody they would be using for that," he said.
Or then there was my favorite--where a defender pointed to Jesus and Mary's relationship to defend Moore's behavior.
The bottom line is that if you support Roy Moore or Donald Trump out of some skewed sense of nationalism or a fear that the country is going down the tubes--the country is already lost.
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These allegation may be true or not, but before I ruin a man's life I'd like more proof. Judge Moore has been a public figure in Alabama for decades, and we're only hearing about all this now? The good people of Alabama are decent and honorable and would not tolerate such a thing so the notion these women were too afraid to come forward because the uncivilized rednecks down there would punish them for doing so, which seems to be the implication, is pure prejudice.
Until I see more I'm going to give the man the benefit of the doubt, simply because I have my doubts. Here's a couple that come to mind.
This is just all too convenient. The media immediately hit the ground running with a presentation and talking points worthy of the spin room at a presidential debate. On any news story that breaks like this typically the first day or so is all about fact gathering. Who made the accusations etc. There was very little of that, it was all about conclusions.
The Democrat smear machine has been looking for ways to shift the Weinstein/Weiner/Senator Menendez sex scandals away from Democrats onto Republicans for a while now, and the pieces in this fit too well together for this to be coincidental. This has all the trappings of a coordinated hit campaign.
But I recognize I could be wrong so we'll have to wait and see. But here's some food for thought.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2017/11/13/double-standard-80-minutes-gop-scandal-barely-2-democrats-trial
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