Monday, December 21, 2009

Do Not Pass Go

"We cannot continue to spend as if deficits don't have consequences; as if waste doesn't matter, as if the hard-earned tax dollars of the American people can be treated like Monopoly money." - President Obama, December 21, 2009

From your mouth to Harry Reid's ears, Mr. President.


Anonymous said...

As Congressman Wilson said about the president, He lies and he lies well and often.

Mudge said...

From GG's linked POLITICO article:

“It’s a much bigger deal, a much larger piece of legislation than half-a-million dollars for a peanut museum in North Carolina,” said Thomas Schatz of Citizens Against Government Waste. “We’re now talking about programs worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars. ... Sooner or later, other members are going to be saying: Why didn’t I think of this?”

There appears to be a new twist on pay to play. It should be called "extort to support." It's probably been going on for years in that political cesspool under the rotunda but its tentacles, at least in this Congress, originate in the White House. And it's costing those of us who actually pay taxes a fortune. And it shows a collosal disregard, nay, disrespect for the nation in a body who once prided itself on voting nation first. The Senators are behaving like a really bad House and the House is behaving like a street gang.

The stench rising from both buildings (Capitol/White House)makes the Anacostia sewage treatment plant seem like an aromatherapy spa by comparison.

Hands down, the most corrupt, most spiteful, and most unchecked government since the founders signed.

Ghost of Halloween Past said...

Anonymous, I think some clarification is in order when you make such a sweeping and damaging statement: who is it that you are implying is lying and about what?

Tom de Plume said...

For once the Ghost is right Anonymous. Obowma's statement is correct and technically not a lie. The fact that he does not live by his words shows that he is a deceitful piece of garbage.

Anonymous said...

Clarification for Ghost of Halloween Past. I did not mean to imply. I meant to make it abundantly clear that the POTUS consistantly lies to the American people and who is as Tom de Plume stated and with whom I agree a deceitful piece of garbage.

Ghost of Halloween Past said...

Thanks for the update, anonymous. In terms of the lying, deceiving piece of garbage stuff, I'm trying to determine what it is you think is a lie in the statement GG posts:

"We cannot continue to spend as if deficits don't have consequences..." << are you saying that the President is lying about this, that you think we CAN continue to spend as if deficits don't have consequences, et al. Seems like a matter of opinion about future prospects, rather than something that has happened and is being intentionally misreported.

Or have you seen into the future and know that in fact we do spend as if deficits don't have consequences, and that the President somehow knew this and is blatantly lying about it?

I take issue with tossing around unsubstantiated charges of lying.

When Pres. George HW Bush promised no new taxes, and then taxes went up, up, I don't think he was lying, I think he honestly wanted to do everything possible NOT to raise taxes.

When Pres. George W. Bush said "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised," I don't think he was lying, I think he believed a case had been made. Bad advisors.

"Reagan proved deficits don't matter," said Vice President Cheney during Pres. GW Bush's administration, during which time a Republican-controlled gov't inflated the $230 billion surplus he inherited to a $1.3 trillion deficit. I don't think Cheney was lying when making that claim, despite the sorry state in which that misguided belief has left our country.

Or rather than taking issue with Pres. Obama's quote itself, are you referring to the context of the speech and claiming that the Pres. is lying about the OMB figures released? Or lying about finding and flagging potential for savings in contract processes and negotiations?

I can see disagreeing with approaches, with beliefs, but I think lying is very serious charge, one that should be addressed very carefully.

I'm not saying presidents don't lie, but when they do, there are serious consequences. Pres. Nixon lied: "I had no prior knowledge of the watergate break-in ..." Pres. Clinton lied in denying his affair with Lewinski. Pres. George W Bush lied when he claimed "...any action that takes place by law enforcement requires a court order..." and "...when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place."

Anonymous said...

"We cannot continue to spend as if deficits don't have consequences..."

Yes he was lying.

One does not give the impression that one will do all within his power to reduce spending and then go on to spend like a drunken sailor (apologies to CW) on shore leave.

He has yet to do one single thing that will make America all the better for having had him as president.

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